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Post by David of Doell on Jun 20, 2009 14:50:24 GMT -7
Well for the website if someone wants to give me access I can go and change it myself. I know my way around HTML and website making. If not then I can copy the text onto Word, edit it there and email it to Cib. I notice on the Belegarth.ca Airdrie page you do have a clearly marked new player info section. I have lots of website suggestions but maybe that should go in a different topic. I'm willing to do the changes myself. I think having a professional looking website is one key to looking like a professional group.
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Post by Cib on Jun 22, 2009 9:43:47 GMT -7
At the top of those pages I see the logos of all the teams. Maybe play up some inter-realm competition between Calgary, Red Deer and Airdrie to add some sport rivalry. At is the first thing I noticed as well. Here is a quick concept I threw together: www.belegarth.ca/Belegarthca/Home.htmlI am no going to go through and comment on all your comments...  |
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Post by Cib on Jun 22, 2009 10:07:07 GMT -7
At the top of those pages I see the logos of all the teams. Maybe play up some inter-realm competition between Calgary, Red Deer and Airdrie to add some sport rivalry. I like the logo thing. We may need 2 lines of logo's though, one for Realms, one for Units... On the paint ball page I see: 1. A video trying to catch your interest:"Sonny's got a plan! See how it pans out against a tank."(it makes me want to watch their video, which keeps me on their site longer, which is good. 2. New players info 3. News and info box I got some of the current Airdrie Site ideas from this paint balls site. What is your opinion of the Paint ball site as a hole? Compared to say the NHL site? When I click on new player info I see: 1. A bunch of links to beginner's guides 2. FAQ "What gun should I buy?" and "what should I wear?" (for you it would be more like "what weapon should I use?") -You could put together articles based off threads in the Belegarth forum about that Good call, those would be a good idea... I like it. Stats are one thing my sports friend is really into. When I look in the sports section of the paper I see pages and pages of numbers. If you wanted to go that route you could have official games as opposed to casual games where actual stats of some kind are recored. This would allow new players to see their improvement over time as well. I wonder how we could incorporate stats? So much competition and we drive more relaxed players away and get more cheating... But some stats and things would be fun! Just how to do it? If you really wanted to shead the lightning bolt label on the very first page you could have someone's picture with the words "Magic is for pansies! Full contact mayhem only!" or "No role play here" Something along those lines to really set yourself apart from the lighting bolt guy. Add a slogan of some sort. I am not sure deliberately targeting LARP fans is a good idea, we still want them to feel welcome, and it may look like we are trying "to hard to be hard" and leave a bad taste in the mouth. A page where everyone's "card" is displayed with a pic in full garb and info about their character. Maybe add some stats to brag about. "Longest time in the Death Pit: 1 minute" "longest javelin kill" "most deaths in one game" Awards like you'd get at the end of a James Bond Goldeneye game on N64. It would be nice, but would take a lot of work. Not only on the web site side, but good photos are unfortunately hard to come by. If I went to a video game website they would have a page displaying all the weapons in the game and uses/drawbacks of each. This could be incorporated in the the "New Player" section. No offense but I do see lots of spelling errors on your website. I'm pretty good at spelling and I'd be happy to edit things for you. Tell me them! I am not to good at spelling, so I don't see most errors, let me know what they are so I can change them! How about a promo video of your own highlighting the fact that you have nothing to do with lighting bolts. Do a sports style trailer of Belegarth or something. One day... one day. Belegarth really does lack good media. Not a lot of good picts, and even less good videos. |
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Post by Moginheden on Jun 22, 2009 10:08:29 GMT -7
I like the new site layout.
Calgary's logo is wrong and you need to throw it through a spellchecker, ("The rules are simple and straight forward") Also I'd expect Edmonton would have a logo.
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Post by Cib on Jun 22, 2009 10:11:35 GMT -7
The biggest thing I notice between most sports and us is teams. Most sports have very specific teams with uniforms that match the rest of your team. In Belegarth, especially here, we all look unique, not a member of a team. If we could get tabards that match it would help a ton. Of course it depends on what game we are playing if the tabards make sense, and these would likely be realm tabards, not owned by any one person as they would be swapped out depending on teams. Agreed. Recreational Sports-Create some tabards (2 colors) to act as pinneys, and differentiate teams, and make things look more "sports like/official". If we had realm colors we could do 2 sets, eg. green and black and green and wight. So that they could be used to differentiate 2 teems at a practice, but also be used to create one teem at an event. |
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Post by Moginheden on Jun 22, 2009 10:19:44 GMT -7
I am not sure deliberately targeting LARP fans is a good idea, we still want them to feel welcome, and it may look like we are trying "to hard to be hard" and leave a bad taste in the mouth. I agree here. I find problems recruiting people because they don't like the lightning bolt guy, but that's because I'm talking to people on one end of the spectrum. If you are friends with someone who enjoys LARP then insulting them isn't a good idea as we want to recruit them too. There is a wide variety of medieval fighting groups, everything from live steel, to wooden combat like the SCA, to foam full contact like Belegarth, and Dagohir, to light contact, occasional magic like Amtgard, to full LARP like NERO. We want everyone to be welcome. |
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Post by David of Doell on Jun 23, 2009 15:32:11 GMT -7
I like the logo thing. We may need 2 lines of logo's though, one for Realms, one for Units... I got some of the current Airdrie Site ideas from this paint balls site. What is your opinion of the Paint ball site as a hole? Compared to say the NHL site? I wonder how we could incorporate stats? So much competition and we drive more relaxed players away and get more cheating... But some stats and things would be fun! Just how to do it? It would be nice, but would take a lot of work. Not only on the web site side, but good photos are unfortunately hard to come by. 1. Your logos look amazing, maybe try them smaller to to fit them on one line. I really think they do add something to the site. 2. As it relates to Belegarth, the paintball site relates closer to Belegarth. I think working off the paintball site is a good way to start because hockey is what I'd call mainstream where paintball isn't. Belegarth is much more like paintball. And people even call it paintball with swords. The NHL site also has a ton of info as opposed to paintball which makes their site way more crowded. 3. Stats. Here's a start: Official duels, if both players agree to an official duel then it will be recorded. A ref would be a good idea, probably mandatory, to prevent disputes. Record wins/losses on a sheet at practices. *There needs to be a way for players to update their stats without having to bug you*. Then they can update it as often as they want. The only way that comes to mind right now is to have a stats topic on the forum and players have a single post displaying stats and they can simply modify that one post. You could have 5 minutes for duels after the mid break during a practice so that you're well warmed up but not exausted. They wouldn't take very long. Based on our duels yesterday it be from 10 seconds to 30 at the most probably. In this situation relaxed players can just watch and have a break if they don't want to participate. This way the majority of the practice is "relaxed" and those who want some official competition can have it if they like. This same concept can be applied with 2v2 matches but they would require a little more time. 4. Why don't we have a photo shoot day so you can stock up on good pictures? Just take 30 minutes from a practice to focus on getting good pictures and nothing else. Script it if it helps. I'll start going through the all the pages on the website and making a note of errors. Are you transferring from the Google pages site to the belegarth.ca site? The link on Belegarth.ca currently goes to the Google pages site. |
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Post by Cib on Jun 23, 2009 17:39:41 GMT -7
I'll start going through the all the pages on the website and making a note of errors. Are you transferring from the Google pages site to the belegarth.ca site? The link on Belegarth.ca currently goes to the Google pages site. Well, Belegarth.ca has only 10MB of hosting space, and the Google Pages site is nearly 75mb (because of the Resource store). So I am not sure how soon the move will be. The splash page at Belegarth.ca is hosted on Belegarth.ca as is the Airdrie site, and the event site was. |
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Post by David of Doell on Jun 24, 2009 14:45:45 GMT -7
Okay then why don't you just host all the images on Google Pages and link to them from Belegarth.ca? Then they won't take up any part of the 10mb. Same could go with downloads.
Are you paying anything for Belegarth.ca? Last time I checked you couldn't get a .ca domain for free.
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Post by Cib on Jun 24, 2009 15:08:18 GMT -7
Ya, it cost me about $30 for the 10mb hosting and the domain name (.ca names are are $10-$20 usually) for one year. Google Pages is holding the hammer overall google pages sites ATM, no body knows when they will actually kill it though.
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Post by David of Doell on Jun 25, 2009 16:08:27 GMT -7
Well there is no shortage of other free hosting websites. I used freewebs for a page I made. So when they kill it you can switch to another one if you want to host the images elsewhere to save space.
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Post by Cib on Aug 17, 2009 8:21:00 GMT -7
Ideas for recruitment through "spectator awareness".
-Once a month (or quarter or week or whatever) "Show case" event (think mini ren-fair)
-Create a "spectator aria" at practices using signs, ropes, info, coloring pages, etc.
-Advertise as a "family viewing event" and "a unique medieval experience" at places like the library where that is more the demographic likely to see it. (aka make a new poster)
-make us some brosures/flyers that advertise this way for touristy places (like the museum)
-Make a spectators section on the web site with viewing info and articles
-Make some Spectators Guides:
--Guide one: What to bring?
--Guide two: How to watch?
-Mini turnys are fun to watch
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