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Post by Cib on Aug 2, 2010 11:37:44 GMT -7
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Post by Moginheden on Aug 3, 2010 12:26:38 GMT -7
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Post by Cib on Aug 3, 2010 14:56:22 GMT -7
lol, ya.
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Post by 'Nuck Badger on Sept 30, 2010 20:57:10 GMT -7
Guess Im the first person from Onoway actually here Sup Alberta? Were getting a growing number of both member and weapons every time we meet. If ANYONE wants to drive out here for a weekend, or maybe even during one of our days off school, we'd be glad to have you. Be nice to Garth someone else for a change. Heck, maybe we can get a carpool and drive out to one of your guys places. Our practices do not yet have a set schedule but feel free to post yours and we'll see.
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Post by 'Nuck Badger on Sept 30, 2010 21:51:56 GMT -7
There is our growing armory minus the glaive, q-staff, and a few broken swords.
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Post by David of Doell on Oct 3, 2010 23:59:22 GMT -7
That's a good amount of weapons.
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Post by Cib on Oct 14, 2010 18:54:14 GMT -7
You guys said you thought you had a lead on some better foam last heard. How did that go?
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Post by Cib on Oct 14, 2010 18:54:50 GMT -7
Is that a short spear/glance up at the top there?
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Post by 'Nuck Badger on Nov 20, 2010 19:47:15 GMT -7
Yeah, thats our first spear Sean and me made. Nicely padded and such, jsut wish we had better cement so we didnt use so much tape xD That huge black monstrosity on the left under the spear is what my brother decided to do with the uber-camp pad. I'm in the middle of another staff weapon using mostly the new stuff. Its pretty thick and nice and poofy. Like blue and the stab-tip kind combined. The spear is also headed with the stuff.
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Post by Moginheden on Nov 22, 2010 11:57:52 GMT -7
it's cheaper and works better if you use contact cement, (blue can from lepage in Canadian Tire, rona, or home depo) but it does take some getting used to using it.
Personally I use the super 77 or super 90 spray glue from the same stores, it's easier to use and seems to work better for me, it's still pretty cheap, but it's more expencive than the contact cement, (not sure how it compares to tape, probably still cheaper, not sure.)
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Post by Moginheden on Nov 22, 2010 11:59:15 GMT -7
one note though, both need to be done in well ventilated, (usualy outside) areas in temperatures at least 10 above, preferably 15 or more.
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Post by 'Nuck Badger on Nov 22, 2010 22:00:47 GMT -7
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Post by Cib on Nov 22, 2010 22:08:21 GMT -7
Yup, that is the stuff (only not water based like you said). The ONLY spray glue that works is 3Ms, it is nice, but more expensive than contact cement (the containers cost about the same, but the spray glue only goes 2/3 as far). Carpet tape doesn't hold as well, but has some really nice advantages, but it is WAY more expensive per cm.
We use SCH 40 1/2 PVC for stuff under 38" typically, for our "nice" gear we use fiberglass rods from UFA, but it is like 1/8" wide or less, so if you are having trouble with glue, it is going to magnify like crazy (as there is less to stick to).
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Post by 'Nuck Badger on Nov 22, 2010 22:13:31 GMT -7
Dunno why are swords arent holding together. I think we need more time for it to set. how long after applying do you guys put em together? Think ours were like 5-10 minutes but Im thinking maybe double that. Next sword I make I'll take my time with and see hwo it works out, but I wanna make a bele-amt cross polearm that fairly light, but will work in both sports. Might be joining the Western Winds guys this weekend or maybe even Wednesday so Ill check out what they have and see if it's Belegal. Some of the stuff I see in vids looks a bit skimpy.
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Post by Cib on Nov 23, 2010 10:33:55 GMT -7
Ask the Amt guys if they use contact cement, they just might and it would be way easier to show you than tell you.
The can says from 10 to 20 min for best bond. BUT, I rarely leave it that long, it would have to be crazy thick for it to take that long. I usually have to wait around 5 min.
It is tricky because if you don't leave it long enough the glue will only stick to itself and not bond properly to the foam, if you leave it to long it will only stick to the foam, not the other glue.
The glue needs to be tacky, not to dry, not to wet. If you touch it, it will be sticky but wont pull off the foam (if it is to we, it will stick to your hand and pull off the foam, if it is to dry it will not stick to your finder at all). How long it takes to get to that point depends on how tick it is and the temperature. (and I also suspect elevation and weather the glue is from the top of the can or bottom of the can play a factor).
This is why it is so important to get a even coat, if the glue is applied unevenly you will have parts that are to dry, parts that are to wet, and parts that are just right, all at the same time.
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