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Post by Gothmog lord of the Balrogs on May 4, 2011 22:41:26 GMT -7
so i thought i would start a thread to discuss how to beat a sword and board combo with different weapons. any ideas?
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Post by Kyrian on May 5, 2011 6:07:19 GMT -7
so i thought i would start a thread to discuss how to beat a sword and board combo with different weapons. any ideas? 1) Two weapon: Use both weapons offensively, not the same one only for offense and the other one for defense. You have twice as many attacks and they can come from different angles. Also, if you position yourself so that his shield is directly in front of you, i.e., you're slightly to the right of your opponent's centerline if he's a right-handed fighter, you can have his shield help you. To get to you, your opponent now has to swing past his shield. 2) Red sword: Aim to hit the person, not the shield. It takes two hits to break a shield and then another to inflict damage. If you hit an arm, leg, or torso, even with armor, it only takes one hit for damage. 3) Spear: Carry a backup weapon. Keep the person at range. Target the legs. Learn how to do "sewing machine" attacks. The normal response to a spear is to charge in past the head. As a spearman, you have to be conscious of your range and try to keep him at that. If you have a backup and keep your lead hand on the spear palm down, you can turn the spear into a very tall shield and do a wrap or leg shot as he charges. To do this you let go with your back hand, draw your backup with the back hand, and pivot the spear so that the pommel is pointing to the sky. 4) Glaive/polearm: A bit of both spear and red sword. You still have to control range but now you can either stab or slash. With a glaive you can also choke up to be more effective at close-in fighting. 5) Archery: The two most available targets when a shieldman is charging are his head and his legs. Be careful about targeting the head as he can often get within 15 feet very quickly. I usually aim for the person's legs as that will immediately slow down his movement. 6) Dagger: Be sneaky. Don't try and get into a stand-up fight. If you do, you have to use the dagger, and as an extension, your hand to block his weapon. You have to get in close to be effective so range control is critical. Hope this helps. P.S. If you can make it to Chaos Wars, I'll be teaching classes on weapon checking, basic shots & combos, shield work, footwork, archery, and tactics. |
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Post by draggoas on May 5, 2011 8:35:09 GMT -7
If i might add for red sword, aiming for legs is great, then go for destroying the sheild then they are easy to pick off. but that usually works best for 1 on 1 duels.
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Post by duskinwolfs on May 7, 2011 21:15:55 GMT -7
okay so Gothmog is probably starting this forum because i have a sword and board. but yeah i would suggest going defense. wait and block, wait for any opening and don't hesitate. block the shots that come at you, don't be afraid to step back and retreat a few meters.
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Post by Gothmog lord of the Balrogs on May 8, 2011 8:22:50 GMT -7
can't wait to try those tactics on a certain someone with a shield "cough cough wylie cough" aw man sorry bout that i think i have a cold.
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Post by Gothmog lord of the Balrogs on May 8, 2011 8:24:35 GMT -7
i am certainitly trying to get there. most likely will be coming though but ya i could use a few pointers in that class of yours kyrian.
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Post by duskinwolfs on May 8, 2011 9:42:38 GMT -7
well Gothmog i have some of my own tactics. you wont know what hit you. but i will try to use some of these tactics in the future.
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Post by Gothmog lord of the Balrogs on May 9, 2011 15:40:19 GMT -7
bring it!!!! MWA HAW HAW HAW HAW
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Post by duskinwolfs on May 9, 2011 17:29:52 GMT -7
alrighty then... i will, oppeing is the best thing to look for. take it. hit it. win it.
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Post by 'Nuck Badger on May 9, 2011 23:57:21 GMT -7
FLYING DRAGON KICK!!! Er, shield kick him  Improve and use your wrap shot to his him in the back. Leg him if you can, then the shield kick/bash becomes more effective. Break the shield = hes done. If you can bait him into swinging then grapple his sword arm, you could have the dagger and end it. |
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Post by duskinwolfs on May 10, 2011 7:17:39 GMT -7
Break the shield= hes done is not always true. most people who use a shield can also fight without it, the the shield kick thing doesn't always work either. i have had bout 3 years of martial arts training and i know how to hold me ground and not move when someone is kicking you.
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Post by Cib on May 10, 2011 10:51:29 GMT -7
A proper shield kick should aim for something like the lower outer corner, the idea being to lever the shield out and open your opponent up to a shot.
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Post by Gothmog lord of the Balrogs on May 10, 2011 14:57:17 GMT -7
ahh but have you ever been "SPARTA!!!!!!" kicked by me dusk? BEWARE!!!!
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Post by draggoas on May 10, 2011 15:51:00 GMT -7
just a quick thought here. defeating any type of weapon combo comletly depends on the person/people fighting, many people have diffrent styles. so you cant get the thought in your head of "oh that person has a sword and board, and i beat them, so i can take anyone with a sword and board" just a thought  |
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Post by duskinwolfs on May 10, 2011 18:51:47 GMT -7
sure Sparta kicked by you... you couldn't even move a feather with that kick. and good thought dragg.
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Improve and use your wrap shot to his him in the back. Leg him if you can, then the shield kick/bash becomes more effective. Break the shield = hes done. If you can bait him into swinging then grapple his sword arm, you could have the dagger and end it.
